WebAmina and Sarah Said were murdered by their father Yaser Abdul Said an Egyptian immigrant on January 1st 2008. Combination locks. Calling her ex because she just likes to stay in touch w peopleLOL! I didnt read anything in this article that convinced me I didnt like that the lab had a bad rep and I do agree the police lie and frame people sometimes so I cant say 100% she did it or not. Meanwhile, the case of the missing mother and baby turned into colossal news across the U.S. and internationally. They retested hair from the car in 2008 with updated new technology. "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. Animals would have for sure. Meticulous primping. (Ross Township Police Department). In another peculiar turn of events, LAPD had failed to preserve the evidence when Jerome Scotts body was found two days after his murder. Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple that infamously pointed guns at demonstrators who were marching past their house last summer, have pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in the incident. PS Speculative lies is meaningless. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. It was total shock. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? Search it out and check for yourself. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. Shes just extremely happy with Andy, her brother, Michael OConnor, told the media. Irving Police Chief Jeff Spivey hailed authorities for pursuing justice in the case for more than a decade. Why wouldnt they let any of her witnesses testify? Joann was fun, likable, beautiful, always happy, said her sister-in-law Cindy Wiard. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. Jenkins was reported missing after her vehicle was found idling with her 2-year-old son inside. DNA tests proved the blonde hairs were hers. Patricia 'The Sparrow' Kopta found alive after decades Clive Swift: Keeping Up Appearances star dies Prosecutor pounds away. "The one thing I am guilty of is bringing the person who committed this crime to Vermont, and for that, I'm truly sorry" Allen Prue said in an apparent reference to his wife during his December sentencing. We've received your submission. Ex-wife slams devil Texas father Yaser Said over honor killings of So you see, MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. ST. JOHNSBURY A three-year nightmare for the loved ones of Melissa Jenkins is one step closer to ending. Patricia A Texas father one of the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives wanted for the slayings of his two teen daughters was busted after more than 12 years on the run, the federal law enforcement agency announced. That poor child and that poor woman. Its totally irrelevant. The police considered the possibility that Joann ran away, a theory disputed by her family. Marsicovetere cited studies done by several doctors during pretrial proceedings, saying that they determined Patricia Prue suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder and might suffer from dissociative identity disorder as well. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? Bob Kopta said that his wife had mental health issues and had spoken of going to the warm climate of the island. Unfortunately, most people cant distinguish reality from crackpot nonsense, and theyre only more unlikely to do so, given todays social media. And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. Yaser Said had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014 in connection with the fatal shootings of his daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, on New Years Day 2008. WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. Cold case: Rape kits from two women lead to arrest in 1979 South In 1981, Patricia Wrights second husband, Willie Jerome Scott, was found stabbed to death in his mobile home park in Los Angeles. More likely it reflects a relative reluctance to execute females as well as the pendency of what will be the last episode of DNA investigation. Very soon after, the original hairs (in glass slides) were sent to the FBI again. Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. Beautifully said Cliff! On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. It cost me a lot of money, I even put advertisements in the paper down in Puerto Rico looking for her.. In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. We can help by getting the word out, by bringing a lot more support to a case that is so insanely bizarre, said Geri Silva. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000. I just watched Reasonable Dont on this case. Which, for this very reason, is at present being investigated by a federal judge? Jenkins' violent death shocked residents of the Northeast Kingdom, including Gerta Blasczyk of St. Johnsbury. She should have been treated exactly the way she treated that mother and baby, taken out into the woods, shot, beaten and then left to die. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. If that really is the case, the husbands alibi for a date months before becomes irrelevant. You murdered your girls," she said. Owens and her sister, Connie Moggio, entered the courtroom together. Andrew described his existence with Joanne and Alex as a little Camelot., Ex-spouse off list. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. Fugitive dad arrested for slaying teen daughters in honor killing Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Keep her murdering ass locked up!!! But her reputation wasnt exactly sleek and shiny. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. What a lame article. Caledonia County Deputy State's Attorney Kirk Williams read a letter from the Jenkins family to the court during the hearing. Why? WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. Its never been made clear. She is a D-FW native with a B.A. Aside from the hair, there was almost zero forensic evidence. Catherine are you sure your names not Karen? In 1995, Larry Wright was facing a 10-year sentence for two felonies, risk of an injury to a minor and violating a restraining order, and a misdemeanor for threatening by saying, Im going to kill you, to his wife after he caught her cheating. Its definitely getting rougher every day, Andrew told the Morning Call. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? According to the Division of the Adult Institutions and Gov. Yaser had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014, according to CBS. He tried to claim someone else murdered them and that the night his daughters were killed someone was following them. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. And she would just call out of the blue., According to the Free Patricia Rorrer page on Facebook:I called him to let him know that I was going to the USA finals for a horse show. After the guilty verdict was pronounced, the defense learned that a report from a state psychologist was not given to the jury. I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours from Riverside to Los Angeles and sit in court all day, Patricia said. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Arrest mother as accomplice in Texas honor killing | Fox News And remnants of what look like a baby rested on the mother. Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. We didnt expect it. Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. Remembering Patricia Cole, former copy editor at NPR : NPR Said Clifford Freeman, since you are already at the top of the list of deluded people not much room left for anyone with an oversized ego such as you apparently have!! Shock, Gloria Smith, the sister of the lost-and-found woman, said at the press conference. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. Mr. Said harbored his father, Yaser, inside an apartment in Bedford, Texas, where a maintenance worker spotted Yaser on Aug. 14, 2017. Then 31 years old, she had lived a rocky existence. Thank you and well said. Patricia also pointed out that when author Tammy Mal started her research and speaking to me, she was not an advocate at all but she reversed and ended up advocating for Patricias innocence. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Youll have to make do with what you see here. Joanne wouldnt have fought back as she was shot therefore almost immediately incapacitating her and was holding her son. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 Also why if beaten with a gun or with whatever, why was there no blood on the clothing? Yaser Said's ex-wife Patricia Owens gives victim statement after guilty verdict Mother of Sarah and Amina Said calls Yaser Said 'the devil' after a Dallas jury found him guilty. Prosecutors said the Prues planned the March 2012 crime: Patricia Prue's computer had been used to conduct online searches for "how to kidnap a girl," the Prues acquired a stun gun, and they bought a prepaid cellphone to call Jenkins to ask for help. I was told they wanted to convict Lawrence Slaughter and not my sister.. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. The Dallas County jury returned a guilty verdict on Tuesday following about three hours of deliberations at the end of the six-day trial. She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. Oh, and she was so obsessed with him that she started dating and found herself a boyfriend that was not only younger, but much more attractive than Andy? The LAPD alleged that Patricias motive was to get Jeromes insurance money, which had a value of $30,000. When she was there, she refused to discuss her private life or where she came from.. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. Did they ever determine cause of death in the baby? Some people are just monsters. Patricia Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. And when Patricia was taken into custody where they removed 39 hairs with root, and then all of a sudden after the FBI report say that the hair tested had NO ROOT ATTACHED, the hair tested had a root? The teens were found shot multiple times in a cab outside an Irving motel after one of them called 911, saying she was dying, authorities said. ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. We were contacted by some individuals an agent from Interpol, as well as a social worker from Puerto Rico, that believed that they had her in an adult care home there in Puerto Rico, the deputy said during the press conference. I come home one night, and shes just gone, and nobody knows where shes at, Bob Kopta, husband of Patricia Kopta, said at a press conference reported by Pittsburgh-based NBC affiliate WPXI. Not sure why anyone is defending her. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? She was wrongfully convicted.. I hope she rots in hell. She has no means to reply or rebut this outrageous slurs and these forums are the only way I know where people may become aware of the wrongful conviction of innocent person and equally, those who happily believe all the adverse and damaging comments. Soon after, Kopta lost her job because she was seeing things and her behavior was disruptive, and then she began to walk the streets to spread her message. Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. I think shes guilty for sure. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. "I want to apologize personally for the fact that my husband wasn't a strong enough human being to admit his wrongs and be able to take his rightful punishment willingly," she said. Prosecutors offered Patricia a plea deal that would take the death penalty off the table, but she declined. I dont think so. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! The phone wire was located at the opposite end of the basement, which was dark. I noticed quite a few errors myself. Joanns first husband, New Jersey construction worker Michael Jack, who had reportedly abused her during their marriage, also had a solid alibi. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. Immediately after getting out of prison in the year 2000, Larry wrote a detailed letter stating that he lied about his sisters involvement in the death of her husband. So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. Said Guilty Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. Sad discovery. WoW! Prosecutors say a 911 call from the night of the murders proves that Said is guilty. I dont even know its Christmas.. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. She wanted all men to give her attention but she couldnt have everyones attention, especially ANDREWS!!! If her husband was going to do that Im sure he wouldve done it in a totally different way! Or to keep it anonymous, click here. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. 2023 FOX Television Stations, Rockwall-Heath coach resigns after school workout investigation, Things to do this weekend in Dallas-Fort Worth: March 3-5, Dallas 14, 15-year-olds charged with murder, Prosper man who shot neighbor's pit bull will not face charges, Watch: New video from Hubble space telescope captures asteroid-smashing debris from successful DART mission, New street drug 'tranq dope,' rots skin, turns humans into 'zombies', 3 children killed, 2 hurt in Italy, Texas, Biden has cancerous skin lesion removed from chest, doctor says, Severe weather video and photos from around North Texas, Suspected North Texas scented candle thieves allegedly stole $27,774 worth of items. But it doesnt make a nonsense of her being the shooter, regardless of their speculation. Lead Prosecutor Lauren Black called Said a true narcissist who believed he was smarter than everybody else. 'He's going to be in a better place': Florida mom charged with the The FBI even included a written report to that effect. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. According to the Charley Project, a missing persons database named after Charles Brewster Charley Ross, one of the first Americans kidnapped for a ransom in the nations history, Patricia Kopta went missing in June 1992 and was reported missing in November 1992. You took my family all in one night," she said. A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. Patricia I dont see any defining comment or wording that justifies that claim. The hearing of the motion for reduction of felony to misdemeanor will be held Tuesday, Oct. 11, at 1:30 p.m. in the Riverside Courthouse at 4050 Main St. in Department 42. And the obvious answer is that the makers too think the evidence is against her. During the trial, the prosecutor said that the insurance reward would have been $180,000, which was totally exaggerated, said Arletta Wright, Patricias sister, who has been championing Patricias innocence from the beginning of Patricias time in prison. The Egyptian-born taxicab driver was sought on capital murder charges since the New Years Day 2008 shootings of his two daughters, Sarah Yaser Said, 17, and Amina Yaser Said, 18, which have been described as honor killings.. Whoever writes this amateurish swill should get a real life, andsa real job. The evidence was all there. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. Patricia And Mark McCloskey Who Waved Guns At BLM Protesters Women like Barbara Stager who killed her husband in Durham NC. Another thing that stumps me is Joannes supposed good friend who said that Joanne told her she was leaving Andrew. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Joanne Chambers and Paula Nawrocki: Strange Lesson. Nataly is the lead writer on Curious Texas and a breaking news reporter. In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led them to investigate. She made an effort to look perfectly groomed even when she took out the trash, according to her mother, who appeared on Forensic Files. According to the autopsy report, Patricias husband, Jerome Scott, had only a few months to live because of a health problem involving a bloodless liver and pancreatic fibrosis. WebPatricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Two problems, then: a failure to see your own position as you see others (failure to comprehend irony), and failure to understand the difference between fact and opinion. They were not reported until 5:30 the next morning and he had already spliced the phone lines together. When they were getting ready to drive away, a police car pulled up behind them and checked their car. Which explains why she made Joann kill the baby, or suffer from the environmental elements. Todays arrest of their father, Yaser Said brings us closer to ensuring justice is served on their behalf.. I cant lose them, he told the media. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Special prosecutor Patricia Brown Holmes said, even though her side didn't win any convictions, the case still helped make police more accountable. Deal refused. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. [emailprotected]. I mean the husband did do some shady things maybe he was involved? According to Arletta Wright, Patricia needs to be driven because she has been legally blind since the age of 16. What the prosecution failed to disclose to Rorrers defence team was that the cops, in their zeal to prove their gun theory, visited several addresses of which Rorrer was resident, dug up the gardens in which she was known to do target practice recovered several shell casings and bullets (more than 70), had them ballistically tested, but NOT ONE was found to be a match to the bullet recovered from the victim. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. I live in Pennsylvania, not far from where this happened.